Funny hosts, Dave and Reese, revisit their Las Vegas Elvis wedding through the lens of the 2026 micro-wedding trend. More than 22 years later, the funny couple behind Manic Joy asks whether skipping the big traditional ceremony was one of the best decisions they ever made. Along the way, they share stories about Reese’s dream Betsey Johnson dress, getting married while grieving her father, a wedding night spent watching Debbie Downer, and why they might return to Vegas to renew their vows for their 25th anniversary. A heartfelt and hilarious conversation about love, intentional choices, and what really matters in midlife marriage.
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Dave: If money wasn't an issue and we had the means, I would wanna do like a, like rent a mansion and invite all of our favorite people to come.
Reese: Like Saltburn?
Dave: And then we do like a...
Yes, we do, we, we, uh, we lick cum from the-
Reese: Yes ... from the- From the bathtub.
Dave: What?
Reese: And then at s-
Dave: Happy wedding, everyone.
Reese: And then the-
Dave: Oh my God ...
Reese: and then the, the-
Dave: Jesus Christ ...
Reese: the honeymoon would be- ... having sex in the graveyard.
Dave: Wow. Okay. You, you, you-
Reese: If you haven't seen Saltburn-
Dave: Talk about, talk about even stranger
Reese: spoilers- Yeah ...
Intro Music: This is Dave. This is Reese, and this is Manic Joy, a podcast about life, love, and, and uncertainty.
Dave: tell, tell us a little bit about that robe you got there, Reese.
Reese: So this is, uh, I'm in a new-
Dave: And cheers, by the way.
Reese: Oh, cheers. Happy Saturday night.
Dave: Yay. It's [00:01:00] Saturday night, almost dead.
Reese: Ooh. That's citrusy.
Dave: I put a-
Reese: What'd you put? ...
Dave: put a slice of lemon in there
Reese: Oh, you really... That was-
Dave: I put a little lemon zest
Reese: It's zesty.
Dave: Yeah.
Reese: So back to my-
Dave: Robe ...
Reese: my robe. The thing is -
Dave: Oh, there's a thing ...
Reese: Yeah. So it makes me happy when I say things and I know the girls are listening.
Dave: Yeah.
Reese: It also sucks that they're listening, 'cause they will remind me of stupid shit that I say all the time.
Dave: That's correct ...
Reese: and they love to make a joke about it.
So for Mother's Day, Emily got me one thing that I had talked about and another thing that I had talked about. One is kinda jokey, and the other was, like, I [00:02:00] did not expect her to, like... I say things in passing. I didn't think she was really, like, zoned in on it.
Dave: Yeah.
Reese: And I had been saying, like, "I need, like, a..."
We were in Marshalls or something. I was like, "I think I need, like, a summer kimono, like, flowy robe so that when I, you know- ... like, I'm, uh, sauntering-
Dave: Yeah, sauntering ...
Reese: about the house-
Dave: About ...
Reese: I can throw it on and, this was one. This was one of the gifts from her. Yes. I absolutely love it.
Dave: Yeah.
Reese: Immediately she was like, "I, I don't know about the color." Are you kidding me? Amazing. Love it.
Dave: It's hilarious when you're-
Reese: Thrilled ...
Dave: you wear it around the house.
Reese: And I saunter. I saunter around.
Dave: You do. You got a little geisha walk.
Reese: A little. And, um, the other was she got me six biscuits-
Dave: Oh, that's right ...
Reese: from Popeyes.
Dave: I forgot about those.
Reese: Uh, because-
Dave: We ate some of those. ...
Reese: one night when we went to Boston, I'm sure we told the [00:03:00] story, uh, you ordered the chicken And all I could obsess about was, "But d- you didn't get biscuits? There were no biscuits?" Oh. "Why didn't you get biscuits?" And then since then everybody made fun of the biscuit thing and she got me six biscuits from- Popeyes
Dave: Popeyes. Yeah.
Reese: Individually you buy them, and I, I just thought that was so funny. So this is my new sauntering-
Dave: You got your biscuits ...
Reese: robe. Yep.
Dave: Yeah.
Reese: It was a hot one today, Reese. It certainly was. This robe did come in handy because, it was a little warm, well, a l- lot warm outside, and then you come into our house and sometimes it's, like, freezing for no reason.
Dave: Yeah.
Reese: But- It'd be cool
Dave: on this side now, but, uh, the other s- the-
Reese: Well, you had to- ...
Dave: the kitchen side of the house starts to get-
Reese: So- ...
Dave: a little warmer because we get more sun over here on that side ...
Reese: take note, the AC was put on this evening. That happened.
Dave: T- today was the day.
Reese: Yeah.
Dave: It was a little-
Reese: That happened
Dave: it was like 76 in there. It was getting a little-
Reese: It was moist ...
Dave: little muggy. So-
Reese: Not a fan of that ...
Dave: the first one th- well, first one off that side of the house- Yep ... popped off the [00:04:00] whatever they call it, covers from the winter- Yep ... and then turn that sucker on.
Reese: Soon as G, we're gonna have to put the one on in the bedroom, 'cause I'm gonna be-
Dave: Yeah, I mean, in a little bit.
Reese: Yeah.
Dave: Not yet.
Reese: We'll see.
Dave: And we'll be good. Usually it's cooler on that side of the house. Yeah. But yeah, it'll happen.
Reese: Um, yeah. So, there's that. It's starting to finally feel like summertime- Yeah ... is around the corner. And I just wanna mark that I did ask if you would open the pool up soon, and you said, "Yes."
Dave: Yeah, I'll open it, uh, the weekend, the Memorial Day weekend or whatever.
Reese: Yay. Yeah. But it won't be ready to go in.
Dave: Obviously not. Why would it, why would w- you wouldn't go in that way anyway. Which is funny because I think n- it's either this week or next week, it's supposed to be, like, in the 90s, 80s and 90s the whole week, and then the following week it's back in, like, 50s and 60s.
Yeah. It's like, what the hell?
Reese: Like place-
Dave: But yeah, that's usually the time I think we open it up. Mm. So we still got a lot of work to do in the yard.
Reese: It's coming along n- nicely ...
Dave: it's coming along, it's coming along. I, I do, I wish, I kinda wish I did some stuff today, but it was, like, too hot. I'm like, "I don't wanna- Yeah
go [00:05:00] out sweat-" Yeah ... sweating, so.
Reese: You definitely would've been- Yeah ... I think, not comfortable.
Dave: Um, so depending on what it looks like tomorrow, maybe tomorrow I'll go out and do a little bit of, little bit of the thing. I'm doing it piece by piece. I was very excited to get that side of the house done, looked beautiful.
Reese: Looks great.
Dave: So we'll, we'll work our way around the house, but, uh-
Reese: Very excited ...
Dave: yeah, getting the back done is-
Reese: Just can't wait to get back there ... most important. Although I get it-
Dave: It was nice to sit out. We've been s- we sat out there today for a little bit-
Reese: We sat out there today- ...
Dave: it was nice, yeah
Reese: and we ate our dinner. Mm-hmm. And just the one thing I'm gearing up for is the pollen, 'cause I know, like- Yeah ... from, like, end of May into June, the pollen gets crazy back there, so not looking forward to, to all of that. But, you know-
Dave: Yeah ...
Reese: it is what it is.
Dave: It is what it is.
Reese: Yeah.
Dave: It is what it is. Well, Reese.
Reese: Yes, David?
Dave: Today we've gone to our trusty friends- Not Cathy. Well, Cathy helped.
Reese: Yeah.
Dave: But w- I've been u- using this other thing for the podcast specifically that kinda gives you some show ideas. And, and, uh, here's our idea for today. So apparently, I don't know-
Reese: Apparently ...
Dave: appar- [00:06:00] apparently, uh, micro weddings are one of the biggest trends of 2026.
Reese: So tell me about it 'cause it's, it's- It's for weddings ... rare when I- Yeah ... when I miss out on a trend, I usually am-
Dave: So essentially- ...
Reese: up on it ...
Dave: what it means is that, it's smaller weddings, basically. Mm-hmm. So fewer guests, less stress, a lot less money spent on seat covers that no one remembers, right?
Like all that shit.
Reese: Sounds, sounds a lot like- So- ... our wedding ...
Dave: that's the basics of it. Mm-hmm. There's just people are, are, purposefully choosing not to do the traditional big, giant wedding that-
Reese: So I understand this ...
Dave: you invite everybody ...
Reese: and I appreciate this because I feel like I'm a, a strong advocate for traditions.
I think they're important. I think they're there-
Dave: This is true ...
Reese: to memorialize something, to remind us of something. And the great thing is you can participate or you don't. Mm-hmm. And a lot of people get their panties in a bunch about the, And it's obviously consumerism, holidays like [00:07:00] Valentine's Day and St.
Patrick's Day- Mm-hmm ... and even Mother's Day, Father's Day, grandparent, that whole thing, they're all money makers.
Dave: Sure.
Reese: Halloween to some extent is, it's a money maker, right?
Dave: Gets all your money.
Reese: 100%. Too much of it. A- and so it's like there are some things I can understand as we grow and evolve as a society.
It's important to decide what traditions work for us or against us. You can be mad about the consumerism thing. It doesn't mean that you don't do it at all. It just means shape it, curate how you celebrate it. You don't ha- like Mother's Day, I don't need a big thing. Our anniversary, I like a little, you know, if, when it's a big anniversary, we'll do something big, but, like, for the most part every year, I like the little reminder.
Yeah. We do some nice things for each other. We move on. Christmas has become so much better since the girls have been older. Yeah. Uh, we just tell each other what we want. Yeah. We throw in some things [00:08:00] as like, throw it to the wall, see if it sticks type gifts. I think that traditions are great ways of bringing people together- Yeah
'cause I feel like if we didn't have Christmas Eve, we would never see family members that we get to see on that- Yeah ... during that time. Yeah.
Dave: This whole-
Reese: So anyway ...
Dave: this whole discussion got us thinking about, all right, well-
Reese: So weddings in general-
Dave: If, if- ...
Reese: have been evolving, 'cause there's a lot of traditional things that people do in weddings that they don't do anymore-
Dave: Well, they do and they-
Reese: that they used to do ...
Dave: and they don't.
Reese: Yeah ...
Dave: apparently. This, this micro thing seems-
Reese: So teach me ...
Dave: to be a thing ...
Reese: what is this about?
Dave: But so, well, I just told you. It's about people just doing fewer things. And so it's a less big traditional type of thing, and-
Reese: So that's like the hullabaloo?
Dave: Yeah.
Reese: A little bit?
Dave: They're just smaller. It's a smaller thing.
Reese: Oh.
Dave: So they do f- fewer guests. They-
Reese: Okay ...
Dave: have it more personalized, right? It's less about the big... When you say wedding, right, what comes to mind is we just watched, uh, that episode of Euphoria where they just had, they, the two, two, those two dum-dums- Yeah
get married. Yeah Right? [00:09:00] That's your traditional-
Reese: And how much did she spend on the flowers? Wedding. Like 80 grand for flowers ...
Dave: and it's all about the wedding day and blah blah blah. Right. Yeah. She wanted to spend 50 grand- And they have- ... on the flowers ... so many
Reese: expectations and-
Dave: So it's all of that, right?
And this is just more about people making conscious choices to do the things that they wanna do and breaking away from what a wedding is supposed to be.
Reese: So we were ahead of the trend for our wedding?
Dave: So, well, this is what I was gonna say. Like, so if we were getting married today after, you know, we just celebrated 22, 22 years together, would you, would we do it the same way?
Reese: Oh, absolutely.
Dave: Or would we make completely different choices?
Reese: No.
Dave: So I've got some questions around... Well, I guess that's all, folks. Uh-
Reese: Okay, bye ...
Dave: thanks so much for joining us. We'll see you later on. Goodbye.
Reese: Cheers.
Dave: That's our show.
Reese: I'm gonna go drink this on the toilet.
Dave: Nice.
Reese: In my robe.
Dave: No. So all right, so well, h- here's the first question I have for you then.
Reese: Okay.
Dave: So what decision from the planning process revealed the most about how we communicate as a couple when it comes to our wedding?
Reese: Well, do you remember the first time we sat down and talked about it?
Dave: I [00:10:00] think I do.
Reese: Tell me what you remember.
Dave: So what I remember is we were in that brownstone in Brooklyn before we went away on our trip, and I remember we were in the little office room, and we were on the computer- and we had said, "Okay," 'cause we were going to Coachella. And we were like, "We can stop in Vegas along the way." And we were like, "If it happens, it happens."
Reese: We made an Elvis joke somewhere- Mm-hmm ... and that's how that- Sure. And then so- ... conversation came up
Dave: ... so we kinda looked up the stuff. We were like, "Okay there's things that we can do, and if we decide to do it, then we kinda know what to do."
I- But we didn't make a hard decision ...
Reese: I remember something else. I remember-
Dave: What are you remembering?
Reese: I do remember that conversation.
Dave: I'm like, that's what I remember.
Reese: I do remember that conversation.
Dave: And we should probably tell everyone, y- you know, we're saying like, yes, we do say if you haven't, if you haven't heard before, you didn't know, like, y- Reese and I did elope in Vegas, got married by Elvis, and it was back in, what, 22 years ago, so [00:11:00] 20- 20, 20...
Reese: 2004 ...
Dave: four. 2004, yeah. Yeah.
Reese: Everything happened in-
Dave: And so I know everything- ...
Reese: in 2004 ...
Dave: happened in 2004. So 2004- And it was when, like, online, like streaming and all that stuff was kinda new. Very new. And the big deal was that we could call back home and people could watch us get married. Like, we, they would send them a link and they could watch it on the computer.
Reese: And a couple of-
Dave: Couple people did ...
Reese: couple people did.
Dave: Yeah, yeah.
Reese: It was really great. I remember that moment when we talked about that. However, I do remember another moment, and I don't know if it was before that or after, but you and I were sitting somewhere eating.
Dave: Okay.
Reese: And we started to come up with the list, and we said, "How many people do we wanna have?"
Dave: Oh.
Reese: And then we started getting into the schematics of it, and it was like-
Dave: I, I don't remember that. I probably blocked that out ...
Reese: it was not a good conversation because we had to, we were trying to figure out, we have New York- Yeah ... and Boston- Well, yeah ... and everybody in between. Yeah. And where do we have it, [00:12:00] and hotels, and how many people.
Yeah. And then it was, well, there's some people we have to invite- Right ... because- Yep ... if you don't invite them-
Dave: Well, so this is the problem with the whole traditional wedding to begin with, right? Right. Is that I feel like it becomes ... This is my whole problem with it, because you know, I, like, again, I like when we create our own traditions, but I'm not a very beholden to what the customs are, are, right?
And so that's one of the things that bothers me, is that typically the wedding becomes less about the people getting married- ... and more about the people coming to the wedding. Which-
Reese: And the people coming to the wedding make it about them, some of them. Not all of them, but some of them-
Dave: Well, uh, but that's what it's-
Reese: with some of the antics-
Dave: Right. Exactly ...
Reese: that go on.
Dave: And so I don't have time for any of that.
Reese: You sat me at the table, went ba, ba, ba.
Dave: I am ... Yeah.
Reese: And then it's like who wore what- Yeah ... and da, da, da.
Dave: Like, right. And so you're, it, it's nothing but a big stress ball- Mm-hmm ... which, I'm glad we avoided because
Well, I think we had logistics to work out based on just because we [00:13:00] were from two different locations, and-
Reese: And do you-
Dave: all of that, and I think our-
Reese: Do you remember what the catalyst was for making that decision to elope?
Dave: I think it was your dad dying. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that was definitely-
Reese: I, I, I was not the one that- Right ... would have my mother and my grandmother walking me down the aisle.
Dave: Right. Yeah. '
Reese: Cause everybody would be like, "Hadam, oh- So-
she doesn't have a father," and it would, that's what it would become. Yeah. And then I would be crying the entire time.
Dave: I actually think ... I mean, when I look back at it, I do think the way it all worked out was perfect.
Reese: Yes.
Dave: We did the wedding, we had our time together.
Reese: Because my father looked down from heaven- Yep
and said, "Reesey, David-
Dave: And, and then we, then we had a party ...
Reese: that's what it should be."
Dave: Then we, when we came back, we had a party in New York.
Reese: Yeah. It was great.
Dave: And then we had a pa- party in Mass.
Reese: It was great.
Dave: And everybody was happy.
Reese: Except for my mom.
Dave: And then, well, she was never gonna be happy, so- Mm ... it doesn't matter.
Reese: Poor Maxine.
Dave: And so it didn't- Right? Like, it was... And we had a blast. Like, w- we-
Reese: Honestly- ...
Dave: we had the best time ...
Reese: I would, I will say if I could go back [00:14:00] and fix up a few things-
Dave: that's a, that's a-
Reese: I would, I would- ...
Dave: that's a question-
Reese: Okay ...
Dave: I, I kinda have.
Reese: Okay.
Dave: Uh, yeah.
Reese: 'Cause I would- Of course.
Dave: So, so-
Reese: If I could
Dave: so save that ...
Reese: but I, I don't have to. Yeah.
But if I was given, like, a magic wand to- Yeah ... do it.
Dave: Well, I'm curious to hear what those things would be. Okay. But, so yeah, for me, in, just in terms of how we communicate as a couple too, like, I feel like... So again, I forgot all about that first conversation. Mm-hmm.
And so I'm basing it off that one that I was telling you about, and we, we agreed to play it by ear- ... which I think just is a good, gives a good example of our ability to come together and find a happy medium of- Mm-hmm ... planning and spontaneity. Right? Which I think talks to both of our personalities.
Reese: And when we are stressed out, our energies tend to- To match ...
Dave: match. Yeah.
Reese: And we butt heads-
Dave: Yeah. And, and it gets- ...
Reese: and it becomes-
Dave: It's, it's too, yeah ...
Reese: it's too much. It becomes too heated, and it ma-... I... And the one thing I didn't wanna have is this, I [00:15:00] watched a few of my friends, I won't say who, but I watched a few of my friends get-
Dave: You know who you are.
Reese: whacked. No. They were whacked- Yeah ... during the whole thing. And, and knowing how I am and how we get, I didn't want any of that. Yeah. And I was like, "It's gonna be so much money." That was the other thing, was spending all of that money.
Dave: W- well, and at that time-
Reese: For what? ...
Dave: money we did not have- Exactly ... for sure, right?
Reese: Exactly.
Dave: And I'm sure people would've helped, but still, like- Yeah ... I don't know. I, and I don't... Yeah, it just doesn't seem like the right thing to be spending money on. U- unless you have it. But if you don't, and even if you do, I think there's better uses. Like, again, like, I just think there's better ways to do it.
Reese: Exactly.
Dave: I don't know.
Reese: I know, I agree. Whatever.
Dave: All right.
Reese: But you do what you have to do. Anyway, go ahead.
Dave: So do you think the wedding itself set the tone for our marriage in any meaningful way?
Reese: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because that wedding is a snapshot [00:16:00] into our whole dynamic.
Dave: Yeah, personalities and-
Reese: The whole thing.
'Cause I couldn't imagine us getting married any other way. However, had my father been alive, there would've been an Elvis impersonator at the wedding, if my father was alive.
Dave: If the, if we did a real wedding.
Reese: If we did a real wedding.
Dave: Yeah. I mean, we got... There was an Elvis impersonator. We got married by Elvis.
But- But you're saying if we did a big wedding.
Reese: If we actually did- Yeah ... if my father was alive- Yeah ... we would never have been in Vegas. Right. Maybe, maybe we could've convinced them to go. Yeah. But whatever. It would've been some sort of spectacle. My dad would've loved- Yeah ... to have paid for that and did that.
So- And Elvis would have showed up. When I turned 21- My 21st birthday party, there was an Elvis impersonator
but yeah, I think that would've been the only thing, had he still been alive and we did, like, a regular full-on traditional wedding.
Dave: So let me just say this, that's an [00:17:00] interesting wild card if your dad was still alive. Yeah. Like-
Reese: It would've happened ...
Dave: I think I wonder would that... Like, that would've been a completely different experience because-
Reese: It would've been in a church or there would've been some sort of religious ceremony
yeah, like- I'd have to acquiesce ...
Dave: and I don't know if I would've... I would- There w- we would've fought ... I would've, I would've gone around, along for it, but it would not have been as m- My dad would've- I think as meaningful and as cool as
Reese: the- M- my dad would've- ... our service ... sat down and talked to you, and y- you would've worked it out with him, and it would've been fine.
Dave: Yeah. But-
Reese: But ...
Dave: I think y- you know, when I think about this question in terms of setting the tone for me it is that we don't hold anything too sacred- Yeah ... other than what's right for us, and I love that that kinda set the tone for what our life would be like together.
Reese: And that ceremony was-
Dave: Great
Reese: it was perfection.
Dave: In all of its imperfection- Well- ... was perfect.
Reese: Th- Right? Like- So there was a, there was a priest. Yeah. Who knows if that was, like, a real priest.
Dave: That was, that was-
Reese: He also was the videographer.
Dave: Well, the-
Reese: He also recorded the wedding ... so if y- But he, he came... We went with, to him first.
Dave: [00:18:00] So you do this, like, little ceremony- Right
before the ceremony. Right. Which is, so if you don't know, now you know, that the Elvis person doesn't actually have the power to marry you. Right. But you meet with a priest beforehand- Or a pr- a, a- ... and you have, like, a private, whatever it is ...
Reese: whatever your religious, right, affiliation.
Dave: You have a private kinda ceremony- Yeah
just the three of you.
Reese: Yeah. And that was wonderful.
Dave: And that was beautiful.
Reese: I wish that was recorded.
Dave: And it was like, whoa. Yeah. Like, 'cause we were, like, crying and-
Reese: It was like a real... He had a real conversation with us. Yeah. Actually-
Dave: It was actually really cool ...
Reese: like, you always see, like, I always think of, like, Monica at...
Nope, um, Ross and Rachel- Yes, yeah ... when they get drunk and get married. Yeah. And then Phoebe's, like, had 11 of those happen. Like, all of these things, yes... Or like The Hangover. Yes, that, that probably could happen, but not the place that we chose and, and the protocol that happened there. Like, we had to go sign up for a marriage license, so we had to go to the courthouse.
Dave: That was fun. They drove us in a little-
Reese: They [00:19:00] drove us ...
Dave: little wedding v- wedding van.
Reese: And they kept playing Going to the Chapel. Yep. Which w- that was, my dad would f- always find a reason to-
Dave: Yep ...
Reese: sing about that. And we did that. Th- then when we had the conversation with the priest beforehand, and I think he, you know, his whole point was to make sure, like, "Is this what you want?"
Mm-hmm. "Do you really wanna do this? And, and what do you mean to y-" I just remember the conversation was amazing, and we cried, and I didn't wanna be anyplace else with anyone else, and this was- probably the most perfect thing that had happened besides the proposal- Right ... since my dad had passed away. Yeah.
Like, my- Yeah ... I was like, "There's nothing that's gonna be perfect anymore. Like, everything is gonna suck." But actually, that moment and then the moment with Elvis marrying us and- Yeah.
Dave: And so that was, like, the pen- like, that was like, "Okay, now go have fun." Yes. And that was, that was fun. Yeah. And then, but then even before the wedding was also fun when we went out and we f- we, we went looking for a dress for you.
Yeah. I got a, I got a, a suit coat, right? Like, it was like-
Reese: Got my Betsy Johnson dress, which-
Dave: That [00:20:00] was a beautiful dress. You looked amazing in that. That was a lot of fun.
Reese: I wish I kept that. Yeah. I didn't.
Dave: I'll have to... I'm gonna try to... Maybe what I'll do is I'll, uh, I know we have the wedding video. Not the wedding video, but like, the, our behind the elopement. Yeah. Yeah. And so this little video that we made. I'll re-share that, but I'll also see if I-
Reese: We should re-watch that because-
Dave: I will, I will clip it up, too. I'll see if we can cut some clips up and start sharing some of those.
Reese: That's, that's such a artifact-
Dave: That was great
Reese: of our-
Dave: Yeah ...
Reese: life.
Dave: Yeah, yeah.
Reese: So good.
Dave: That was fun. Yeah. So well, that was fun because we got to bring that back, and then when we did those parties, we did that with everyone. So we watched that, and that's how we announced that we were-
Reese: Pregnant ...
Dave: having the, having the girls, too. Yeah. Which again, let's just say it just in case people are wondering.
Reese: I was not pregnant before we got married.
Dave: Right. The girls were married or were married-
Reese: I got my period- Yeah, well- ... on our wedding night.
Dave: I was gonna say yeah, so-
Reese: And my mother loves to be like, "Well, you probably had to do it 'cause you were pregnant." Yeah. No. No, I was not.
Dave: The girls were born-
Reese: I literally had my period
Dave: two months early. They were premature two to three months early, and that's why they were born when they were. It was, had nothing to do with us being [00:21:00] pregnant before we got married, but it all just worked out.
Reese: It did. It w- yeah. It actually did. And then our wedding night-
Dave: Yeah ...
Reese: was the best because I had my period, so nothing really exciting was gonna happen, and that's-
Dave: So that I remember
Reese: and that's when your father had champagne- Yep ... sent to the room for us.
Dave: There were roses in the room, champagne.
Reese: Yep, which was lovely. Yep. And then we watched that-
Dave: Saturday Night Live. Yep. Not Saturday Night Live. Yep. That episode with what's her face.
Reese: Debby Downer.
Dave: Debby Downer.
Reese: It was the first time-
Dave: "Wah, wah."
Reese: It was the first time-
Dave: And we were just goofy ...
Reese: that was on. Yeah. It wasn't like... That was or the original date with Lindsay Lohan. Yeah. And we, I just remember us just cracking up and laughing. Mm-hmm. And we just had... It was just the... It was the best. Yeah. And I think, I think we needed that as a, I... Honestly, if it can change traditions around, I don't know if that's a question, in general, but as far as weddings are concerned, I think couples should get married privately first.
Dave: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I, I'm, I'm a proponent of that idea.
Reese: And have that conversation with [00:22:00] whatever-
Dave: And let it be- ...
Reese: religious affiliation or non-affiliated, whatever it is.
Dave: You know, you know what it reminds me of? Jim and Pam when they went off and they got married on their own.
Reese: On the, the boat.
Dave: And then they had the ceremony for everybody else.
Reese: Because that's what it- Yeah ... boils down to ...
Dave: because it becomes about everybody else. Yeah.
Reese: Because we had our moment, but then we had the other two parties in Boston- Yep ... and then we had it in New York, and those were for- other people- Yeah ... for our friends. Yeah. That were also kinda like, "Man, you didn't invite us?"
No, I'm, and s- so when we, I'll address that with whatever other question. Yeah, go ahead.
Dave: Well, is there anything that you think that in terms of just setting the tone for our marriage in a way going-
Reese: No, that was perfection ... into it? That's exa- and it... Listen. We went to Vegas, we found a chapel, we got married by Elvis.
Yeah. We had this great experience, and where did we en- end up literally for our honeymoon? Coachella. Yeah. Seeing Radiohead- Yeah ... and The Pixies. Yeah. And it, [00:23:00] 'cause all we do is go to concerts.
Dave: I know. Yeah, actually- That is our whole aesthetic ... a- actually, yeah, it really, it really set-
Reese: That's our whole aesthetic
Dave: set off, like, everything. We mo- we got, like, what, 11 more concerts to go to? Yep. Or 12, 10, whatever. I don't know.
Reese: We're at 11. 11 to go.
Dave: It was a bus- busy summer. But- Very busy summer ... but I think, I think, yeah, ultimately, I think it shows how we are just in general. Like, we don't, again, that idea of holding something sacred, but also-
Reese: We can adjust
Dave: n- not be, yeah, not being so planned or honed in on, like, it has to be like this. And just saying- And getting upset that it isn't ...
Reese: we adjust and curate to what-
Dave: We kind of like- ...
Reese: makes it work for us ...
Dave: we have an idea of where we wanna go, and then we go in that direction. Right. And then we kinda also like it to be, "Hey, let's go to this place and find out what happens when we get there."
Right. Like, we don't have to plan everything.
Reese: Right. It's funny because we do like consistency, but we also do like-
Dave: That's the consistency ...
Reese: spontaneity.
Dave: Yeah, the, our, our-
Reese: Of it ...
Dave: our, our, uh, the consistent piece of how we operate- Yeah ... is the piece that we like. Yeah. All right. So my the third question I have for you here is if we were starting over today, would we choose a micro wedding, [00:24:00] a huge celebration, or something even stranger?
Now, I know you've said to me multiple times that, like, you're like, "Let's do it again and have, like, a big thing," and I'm like, "Uh, no." But, like, would you change anything, do you think?
Reese: I would never change anything.
Dave: Other than, other than your dad, right? Like- Right. Well- ... your, if your dad was around, but again, that would-
Reese: That's not a component
Dave: it would, that would've, that would've caused a completely different thing.
Reese: That would've been a completely different wedding. Yeah. I'm s- and it would've been fun. It would've been great. It would've been fun.
Dave: So same situation- Doesn't matter ... but it was today, do you think we would- So- ... do, do something different?
Reese: So I feel like say we just met each other now in the age that we are and we're gonna do this.
Dave: The age we are now?
Reese: Yeah.
Dave: Or the age we were then?
Reese: Whatever. Say we found each other now and we're doing it, right?
Dave: At this age.
Reese: I would have, I would invite our friends.
Dave: Yeah. But-
Reese: Whoever can come, can come
Dave: but I still feel like it would be a micro wedding. Like, it wouldn't be, like, a big thing.
Reese: Yes. No. Yeah. I'm saying we would go to Vegas.
Dave: Oh.
Reese: Have a handful of people.
Dave: I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. Yeah. And then have some people come with us.
Reese: And it would still be micro- Yeah ... but it wouldn't be, like, [00:25:00] crazy.
Yeah. You know what I mean? And we could still live stream it, Face- FaceTime or go live on Facebook or whatever- Yeah ... crazy thing that we would do. Yeah. My cousins would love it. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like we would do s- it wouldn't be like a destination wedding. I wouldn't do like a beach or a thing and put- Mm
their sand and my sand and our sand-
Dave: Well, I wouldn't do any of that ridiculous stuff, right? Like-
Reese: And then take a starfish and we put it on our face. Like, I'm not gonna do that.
Dave: And then suck our will to live right out, no.
Reese: Yeah, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna do any of that. But I feel like we would've done something fun, and we would've probably invited people to go.
Dave: Yeah. Well, so this is what I wrote. I, I went to the something even stranger bucket.
Reese: Okay.
Dave: And I feel like I would like... Okay, if I ha- if money wasn't an issue and we had the means, I would wanna do like a, like rent a mansion and invite all of our favorite people to come.
Reese: Like Saltburn?
Dave: And then we do like a...
Yes, we do, we, we, uh, we lick cum from the-
Reese: Yes ... from the- From the bathtub.
Dave: What?
Reese: And then at s-
Dave: Happy wedding, everyone.
Reese: And then the-
Dave: Oh my God ...
Reese: and then the, the-
Dave: [00:26:00] Jesus Christ ...
Reese: the honeymoon would be- ... having sex in the graveyard.
Dave: Wow. Okay. You, you, you-
Reese: If you haven't seen Saltburn-
Dave: Talk about, talk about even stranger
Reese: spoilers- Yeah ... okay, go ahead.
Dave: So no, but like a big... Right? I would wanna do like a big, like mansion type thing, and everybody comes, and have like a pseudo... Like I have a wedding-
Reese: Yeah ...
Dave: murder mystery- Oh ... karaoke.
Reese: Make it theater-
Dave: Like, and have like a whole just like- ...
Reese: component ...
Dave: weekend that people would be like, "What the fuck is happening?"
Reese: I love that.
Dave: And have the best time.
Reese: I love that.
Dave: Like, you know what I mean? That's what I would do.
Reese: I would like that. That... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, to go back-
Dave: To the shack ...
Reese: I wouldn't change anything.
Dave: Yeah. Well, let me ask you this then. Is there one part of your wedding that you secretly wish had been completely different?
Reese: I wish I didn't get my period.
Dave: So-
Reese: 'Cause that, and the-
Dave: When- ...
Reese: the dress, you know, it wasn't even-
Dave: I knew that was gonna be the answer too ...
Reese: the other stuff. It wasn't even the other- Yeah ... stuff.
It was, I was in this Betsey Johnson dream dress.
Dave: Mm. Mm-hmm, [00:27:00] mm-hmm.
Reese: And I was so afraid-
Dave: Paranoid of-
Reese: That- Yeah ... something, you know- Yeah would spoil it. That w- that was the one thing-
Dave: Or soil it ...
Reese: or soil it. I was trying not to say that, but okay. Yeah. But that would be the only thing, is I wish that didn't happen. But everything that happened that, that night was wonderful.
Dave: Yeah.
Reese: It was great. Yeah. It was perfect. It was as micro as you can get it.
Yeah. You know what I mean? And it, it-
Dave: Not something you generally like to hear, but cool.
Reese: I, well, I'm talking about the wedding. I'm not talking about anything else. 'Cause again, I had my period- Yeah ... so nothing happened.
Dave: Period.
Reese: Um, and-
Dave: and we waited, so it was very...
Reese: Oh yeah, we totally abstinence the whole time.
I feel like... Can I just ask you this?
Dave: Yes. Imagine I was... no, goodbye.
Reese: For our 25th wedding anniversary-
Dave: Yeah.
Reese: What are your thoughts-
Dave: I already know what's coming ...
Reese: on [00:28:00] going back to Vegas- Yeah ... with the girls- ... significant others that they're with, couple of our friends-
Dave: Maybe ...
Reese: going back to Elvis-
Dave: Maybe ...
Reese: and just having the best time. Yeah. Just having a good time.
Just having a good time.
Dave: Having a good time.
Reese: I j- You know what I mean? Just- Yeah ... just going for it. So- Do, do the vows and-
Dave: I think, yeah, I think, uh-
Reese: And, like, really do it Elvis style. I mean, like, g- tacky dress, the whole thing. Just the-
Dave: So you mean, like, renew vows, like a whole thing?
Reese: Renew the vows. Just go for it.
Dave: Mm.
Reese: With Elvis.
Dave: Um, yeah, I'm, I can be convinced of that, I suppose.
Reese: I think that would be-
Dave: It depends on, it depends on, it depends on what we decide is a priority i- in that timeframe, yeah. 'Cause I think w- obviously, we have to make choices on, like, what we're spending money on, right? But, like, I'm not against it.
But I would also say, like, why don't we just go someplace else and do something else?
Reese: No, because the thing is- You know- You know what's so funny? When we went to Vegas, I was not thrilled with it. [00:29:00] I was like, "This place sucks."
Dave: I do not like, I do not like Vegas at all.
Reese: And we didn't even do anything-
Dave: And I've been a lot because I've had to
Reese: but we didn't even do anything cra- We stayed in the downtown area at, where I think we felt most comfortable.
Dave: Mm-hmm.
Reese: And then when we, we, we went back two, three more times?
Dave: I don't know. Too many.
Reese: Every single time, I had a good time. Yeah. There was always something where I'm like, "Ooh, this is a little sketchy," but- I always had a good time. Yeah. I don't know, I don't know what it was. Like, but I kinda wanna go back now that the girls are allowed near a bar, that they can go and gamble with me. Like, I just wanna have one more experience with them that was almost like... Because I grew up in Atlantic City with my family, I would like just one pure experience of just gambling, having a, like, a- Yeah
like, that experience with the girls, just a fun, like, getting dressed up and doing stuff. Yeah. And I think that they, I think they would like it.
Dave: Oh, they would, they would have a good time, yeah.
Reese: And it would be so cute 'cause they could be- Yeah ... my little maids of honor. With Juju. Like, it would be so cute.
Yeah. [00:30:00] Like, I, I don't know. It... That's just me. I think... I'm putting it out there for our 25th wedding anniversary, that would be the gift that I would ask you- Hmm, hmm ... about-
Dave: we'll see ... for it. We'll see what happens.
Reese: Okay.
Dave: Uh, so question to you all listening, you know, what would you do if you had to do it all over again, or you, maybe it's the first time you're getting married?
I don't know. Would you do a micro wedding? Would you do the big thing? Do something completely different? Give us a shout. Let us know what you'd do.
Reese: One more quick question to you.
Dave: Oh, shit.
Reese: Right.
Dave: Thought I was off the hook.
Reese: You're not. Yeah. Um, how do you think Emily will get married?
Dave: She'll do a micro wedding.
Reese: 100%.
Dave: And she'll do it how she wants to do it. Yeah. Which I love.
Reese: Yes.
Dave: Yeah.
Reese: Jonnie.
Dave: Jonnie may do a more traditional-
Reese: She's gonna cost us a lot of money.
Dave: She would wanna do a bigger thing, I think. I don't know. Although, I think they're both practical. Like, I think, I think-
Reese: But Jonnie's will be more traditional.
There, there'll be- Uh,
Dave: Jonnie's would be closer to traditional. Jonnie's will be more [00:31:00] highly planned, I think. Mm-hmm. And Emily's will be planned, but it will be, feel more organic- Yeah ... if that makes sense. Yeah. But I don't, I don't know. I think, I think-
Reese: Not, I'm not saying- Yeah ... either one is in a bad way, but-
Dave: No, either one is in a, in, not at all
Reese: this is how you can... Oh, their personalities are so magical.
Dave: But I think what would be nice is that I hope, and I, I do- I know for sure Emily, and I think the same for Jonnie, but I think they'll both wanna put their own-
Reese: Spin on the thing ...
Dave: spin on it.
Reese: 100%.
Dave: Which I think would be good. Yes. 'Cause like, you know, weddings can kind of feel like- not special.
Reese: They don't, and they don't- Yeah. Yeah ... they would never want it to look like-
Dave: And to be like what everybody else does ...
Reese: rubber stamp.
Dave: Yeah.
Reese: Would, uh- Yeah ... exactly.
Dave: They don't wanna phone it in.
Reese: Which, which is, I think, another thing-
Reese and Dave: Thing they get from us ... that they got from us.
Dave: Yeah, for sure.
Reese: So, yeah.
Dave: For sure.
Reese: Okay.
Dave: There you go. All right. I'll say this, friends-
Reese: All right, so you heard it here first. Dave is considering- ... and will do a 25th anniversary renewal vowel.
Dave: We're gonna start a-
Reese: Vowel ...
Dave: GoFundMe page, uh, that we'll send you the link to.
Reese: A vowel, not vows.
Dave: Yeah, we're gonna do-
Reese: He's gonna renew his vowels
Dave: I'm gonna re- re- renew my, renew my vowels-
Reese: A-E-I-O-U ...
Dave: and my, my bowels. Yeah.
Reese: Sometimes. [00:32:00]
Dave: Sometimes "Y".
Reese: "Y".
Dave: Friends, life is a group project. Be kind to each other.
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