Ep. 145: Stick It Up Your Google Box

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But I'm not going to argue with
you.

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No, but it.
Doesn't matter that you're

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arguing with me.
Let me finish the point.

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The point is then you and I
can't have a discussion about it

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because we're not looking at the
same thing.

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We're looking at different
things.

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We do this every single day.
This is why people fight with

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each other.
I feel like it would probably

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be.
You know why people fucking

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fight with?
You don't fucking fucking Google

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box.
Stick it up your Google box.

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This is Dave.
This is Reece.

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And this is Manic Joy, a podcast
about.

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Life.
Love.

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And uncertainty 'cause no.
One can do.

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It like do we do it?
Like do we do it like we do it?

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Let's look at that face.
What is it?

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Look at these eyes.
What does he say?

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I don't know lots of.
Things.

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Look at that.
Look at this face.

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Let's yes start with that.
Oh, delightful.

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Oh, that's so good.
Crisp.

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Sometimes I'm like, is this
going to be good?

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And that it's like amazing it's.
Always good when I make my

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concoction.
Everybody hates it and I like.

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It I see what you do and I'm
like, I watched you the other

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day.
You had the lip Blanc, vodka and

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vermouth and I just watched you.
No gin.

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You didn't have gin.
I watched you.

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You brought in three bottles.
You had vodka, La Let Blanc and

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the vermouth.
And I was like, have a good

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time.
I thought it was gin.

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Yeah, you would think that.
Well, I mean, you drink enough

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of it, It doesn't matter.
It's I could put rubbing alcohol

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in there and I'm like.
Listen, Kitty, Kitty, Kitty

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Dukakis, I'm making a a way
back.

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A way back.
Reference Why did Kitty Dukakis

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drink rubbing alcohol?
I think so, yeah.

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Wasn't that a thing?
That was a thing.

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We'll have to look that up.
Somebody fact checked.

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That I know, I know.
I believe that was the thing,

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yeah.
Let's not get sued.

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Yeah, Kitty's going to.
Be allegedly.

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Fucking pissed.
Allegedly, she drank rubbing

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alcohol.
I mean, her name is Kitty so I

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think anything goes.
Anything's possible.

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I wish that I had like a little
cute nickname like that, you

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know, like no, but I mean like
like a posh Waspy, you know,

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like a like a Kitty or like a
Missy or one of those kind of.

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Yeah, you think?
I would.

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I'd make a a cute little waspy.
I'm too dark though.

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Wow, what's?
The Arab.

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We're starting this one off with
a bang, so listen, let's.

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Speaking of Arabs, I'm an Arab.
I can make the joke, OK, All

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right?
So let me start by saying this.

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We just finished Dexter
resurrection.

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OK, let's before I get there,
let's get to how we got there

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because it's going to be a, it's
a gripe, one of Dave's gripes

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right now.
Well, I'm going to.

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We're on.
We're simpatico with the gripes.

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So last weekend we go to watch
the Patriots game on CBS and for

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whatever fucking reason, the
week before it started with the

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game was on Fox.
Couldn't watch it on Fox because

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there's something going on with
Verizon.

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And I think on the limited
amount of research that I did,

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because I'm, I'm not.
I don't even want to bother

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because I don't care what the
reason is.

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I'm fucking paying you for these
shows.

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Fucking show me the shows.
The only reason I'm paying you

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is to watch football.
What's the?

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Excuse something like the
providers are asking for more

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money and we don't want to put
that on like blah.

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Blah, so fucking.
Whatever.

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Yeah.
So here's the deal.

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I think what happened is that
Verizon has switched us over to

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this like Google Box to like get
TV now and that Google Box I

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think they can.
I like to say Google Box.

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The Google Box try to say it.
I'm like an eighth grader.

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I'm like 6767.
Yeah, yeah.

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Google Box.
Google Box.

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The Google box.
Why didn't?

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Why don't you go stick that in
your Google box?

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You got one of them there,
Google Box.

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Why don't you shove it up your
Google box?

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Talk about a deep search.
Oh, what?

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Far.
All right, Literally too far.

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So I think what's happening is
now the providers or whatever

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consider that streaming and not
like regular cable.

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And so that's why they're asking
for more money.

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Yeah.
So it's all this bullshit.

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And so then, so two weeks ago,
we couldn't watch the game.

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I had to find it on another
thing to watch it.

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I found it cool this week.
Now CBS, same situation.

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And I'm like, are you fucking
kidding me, bro?

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I figured out a way to now if we
watch it in the bedroom, because

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we're not connected to the
Google box in the bedroom, we

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can watch it.
I know, but I don't want to

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watch the Super Bowl and.
I understand.

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Hey, oh, hey, oh, we have our
own Super Bowl going.

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We're winning that.
We're in a different

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championship in there.
If you what?

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Oh, you are really, you know,
Drake May man.

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Wow.
Ho whoa ho.

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Whoa ho, what is happening?
I don't know.

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I'm it's way past my bedtime.
It's late on a Saturday.

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And so then, So what had what
had happened?

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What had?
Happened, you were saying?

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Was that I had, I just like, all
right, fuck it, I'm paying for

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Paramount Plus so we can watch
CBS and watch the game.

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So I did that and now we have
that for a month because I'm

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like, OK, I'm going to use this
for a month, but I'm not fucking

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paying for.
I'm not paying for yet another

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fucking thing.
What else is on Paramount Plus

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that we could take advantage of
it?

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Well, this is what I said to you
fucking last week, that you

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didn't pay attention to where I
said let's watch some things

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because this is your time.
This is your time to.

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Shine.
So what we did do, though, was

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so real quick, we don't let's
not talk about it now.

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We'll talk about it next week
before the big game.

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But go Pats, Super Bowl.
Holy crap, Patriots, Seattle

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again.
This is crazy.

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So good for them.
Super excited, going to be fun.

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Yeah.
All right, moving on to what we

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did start watching though,
because Showtime is on Paramount

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Plus, we started watching, by
the way, we could watch South

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Park, we could watch the New
South Park.

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So that would be fun.
That would be fun.

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Maybe we should do that tonight
after we're done here, OK?

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But I'm in yes.
I like it.

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So we started to watch Dexter
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Holy shit.
Five out of five, highly

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recommend.
So good, So good.

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If you're into Dexter, this is
this.

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This is.
Yeah.

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I mean, it's like they did, they
did a few of them.

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They did the regular Dexter
series, then they did the Dexter

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New Blood, which was him and his
son which.

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Then they did.
When we watched that, I remember

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thinking that was made-up for
the shitty that.

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Was also good of.
The series that was really good.

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Then they did another one after
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Yeah, well, just before this one
came out, I think they did

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Dexter First Blood, which goes
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That was the prequel.
When he was young, first

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starting with.
Him and Deb.

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And so I watched a couple of
those on the plane.

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It's fine.
We're going to do that next.

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But we did Dexter resurrection,
which is him and his son Pete

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again so good we we watched it
with.

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Emily writing.
Absolutely loved it.

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The writing, the.
Acting they brought back.

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It was so.
Good if you know the series

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well.
Such a good.

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There was a ton of little Easter
eggs in there.

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They brought back some of your
favorite people.

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Super smart writing and and
really good with setting it up

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and then bringing the thing back
and making it work.

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And I just, I was impressed, I
was entertained.

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We were on the edge of our seat.
The cliffhangers loved it and

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was like, Oh my God, these
cliffhangers are so good.

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We did.
It we did an like an episode at

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night and then was it yesterday?
Yesterday we just finished it.

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We had like 2.
Episodes there's nothing like

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having quality time with your
child and watching Masters

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murderer so it's fun.
But the IT was a great concept,

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the way they brought it all
together, everything just worked

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really well.
And all of favorite.

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Everybody was there.
All of favorite actors were on

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it too.
Like that was great.

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But don't say anything else.
I won't.

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We don't spoil it.
Highly recommend if you're into

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the Dexter series.
Resurrection if you haven't seen

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it.
Great.

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Really, really good.
Let's also recommend we also

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went back.
We've been watching some movies

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because you're not a repeat
movie person.

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Like you're I'm like a more of a
repeat show person.

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You're a repeat show, but not
like a movie.

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Although we did watch what you
McCall it today and I.

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Well, that's what I'm saying.
We we rewatched well for the

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first time we watched prisoners.
We never watched that.

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But Jake Gyllenhaal and Hugh
Jackman also good.

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Highly recommended by Johnny who
watched it when she was like.

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And she's been trying to get us
to watch this thing for like,

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years.
Like, so family movie night, we

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watch this on the edge of our
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Great movie.
Yeah, it was good.

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And then we're I think we're on
like a Hugh Jackman kick.

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Like we find someone and then we
end up watching like all their

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movies on, you know, And then
today we watched.

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The Prestige.
Johnny and her boyfriend were

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looking for a movie today.
And as they were scrolling

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through things, I was like, oh,
that one, that one, that one.

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And then we came to the
Prestige.

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And then Johnny was like, yeah,
I don't really even, I've

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watched that.
And then he was like, he had.

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JP had never seen it.
And so I was like, I would watch

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that.
And then I came.

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I was like, hey, we're going to
watch this if you want to come.

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And you're like, yeah.
Oh, yeah.

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So I was going to go right back
to sleep, but I was like, you

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know what?
So that's a Christopher Nolan,

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if you like Christopher Nolan
movies, if you like Christian

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Bale, if you like what's his
name?

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What's his name?
The old guy, Hugh Jackman. 00

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and.
Oh, why am I forgetting his?

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Name No.
From Batman, Yeah.

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The old guy, the old English.
Guy, he's the best.

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I know he's.
So good I literally can watch

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him in.
Well, I know why I can't

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remember his name because I'm
old also.

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That I literally can watch him
in anything because I love the

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way he talks.
He does not open his mouth and

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he's so British.
Wait, let's look that up.

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Because that we should give him
the credit that he deserves.

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See if I can get it before you
get it.

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OK, I'm not going to.
Oh, why?

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Why do you play games with me,
Michael Caine?

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How dare we.
How dare we, Michael Caine.

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Yeah, I think we should also
acknowledge a recent celebrity

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death, which is kind of.
Catherine O'Hara Yeah, that's a

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bummer.
That stung and completely out of

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nowhere.
Apparently she had some sort of

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like congenital heart issue, but
they're still like weird with

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the information that sucks.
And so for myself, I'm probably

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which is so weird.
Again, the simulation.

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I really need to get a tinfoil.
Oh, I wanted to tell you about a

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simulation thing.
Finish your thoughts.

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OK, OK, don't forget it 'cause I
definitely want to hear that.

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Forgot it, but go ahead.
We've been singing Home alone

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from the Jonas Brothers, Home
alone, home alone home.

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What was the big movie that she
was in Home alone?

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Home alone and someone posted a
meme and it's her in the truck

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with John Candy and he's got his
you know, when he in the movie

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he was in the Poka poka Poka
that was his.

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And so they have a picture of
him with his instrument,

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whatever.
And they were like this is how

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he's greeting her in heaven.
And I was like, I can't.

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And you know, everybody loved
her from Schitt's Creek, but

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every she's always good.
Best in show.

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Mighty Winds, Guffman.
She to me as far as improving

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comedy, that's a role model for
me.

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I could never do what she did.
OK, you ready for?

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The.
You ready for the?

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Simulation.
So what we were supposed to do

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tonight was, as you may have
known if you've listened to

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previous episodes, that I got
Reese a subscription to the

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history by mail and that she
gets a replication, a replica of

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a letter, some type of historic
event.

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And it gives a little bit of
detail on it and, you know,

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tells you.
So what we were going to do

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today, because we hadn't gone
back to this in a while.

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And I was like, Reese, you know,
you've been getting letters.

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What the Hell's been going on?
Are you, have you not been

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paying attention to history?
What's wrong with you?

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And you were going to put
together a little something and

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we were going to look at some of
the letters that you got.

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So that's what the plan was for
this evening.

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At some point during the day,
you went in for a nap.

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I watched the latest edition of
Shark Tank as I do when I've out

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by myself.
Tell me those guys.

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They did a, well, this is where
I found out about it.

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And so they did the recap What's
happening with History by mail.

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I was like, fuck.
So these guys came on and

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they're doing a collaboration
with, what's his name, David

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Copperfield, and they're going
to do a thing and they're going

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to send that.
You should.

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We should get it at some point
or you should get it at some

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point about a letter from Harry
Houdini and some information

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about he made an elephant
disappear.

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And I guess David Copperfield is
going to make you ready.

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Here's the simulation.
Some more.

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I'm ready.
He's going to make the moon

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disappear.
He's been talking about that for

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a while, by the way.
Well, I guess this is the big

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moment.
He's really putting the push on

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now.
Wow.

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Yeah, simulation.
I was like holy shit so so would

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have been really cool but re
shit the bed well.

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She didn't do it right.
So listen, I, I do want to say

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this probably one of the best
gifts you ever got me because

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I'm a sucker for history.
I love history.

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I love learning about random
topics and I loved, I love when

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I get them because I, you never
know what it's going to be.

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And I definitely get that from
my, my grandfather was like big.

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He taught me a lot of things,
just like random historical

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things.
And to be honest, my brain is

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broken.
She's had a rough week.

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I've had AI have like it has
been, which is probably why I've

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been napping so hard lately too.
But I had auditions.

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I had been learning a monologue
which I never got to do, so now

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I know a random monologue for no
reason.

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Say the word.
Say the word yeah.

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What do you mean?
Oh, come on, the word from the

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monologue.
Oh God.

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Well, actually, and I'm so I'm.
Kind of.

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I'm kind of happy.
I mean, I wouldn't do it, but

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because you know what it is
about murder mysteries.

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No, wait, listen.
I think the reason why people

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like murder mysteries is because
in murder mysteries, everything

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is significant.
And the people in the murder

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mysteries live in a significant
world, a world where everything

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happens for a reason.
All right, I'll stop.

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The word is AB obfuscation.
I was close Obfuscation,

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obfuscation obfuscation.
Sometimes it like I.

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I you've been having a you've
been having a hard, I'd be.

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Perfect.
I have a hard time saying words

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but wait.
There's more.

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Yes.
So then I had the auditions and

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which I got a part that I'm very
excited about.

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It was the first time in a long
time I auditioned for something

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that I wanted a part, a specific
1, and I got it.

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So cheers to me, I'm kind of
excited about that.

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And then I've been working since
November to we're moving from at

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the college Blackboard to
Brightspace and anybody that

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does anything in the college
realm, it's just a 24/7 app that

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the students and teachers use so
that the content of the course

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is on there all the time and
everybody has access to it,

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whatever.
And so I had to create my own

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hybrid course because there's a
special situation, whatever.

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So since November, I've been
working with this wonderful

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person in IT, Brian, giving you
a shout out who's been trying to

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get me to transfer it over into
Brightspace.

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But Brightspace is you have to
be 100%, have 100%

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accessibility.
And since I created all the

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content myself, a good portion
of me being on the low end of

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accessibility is because I did
not like this.

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I have to have like the alt
text, I have to have headers,

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all these things on there that,
you know, I make these like

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silly, very visually stimulated
visually, yes, I'm a visual

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learner.
So I like to put a lot of like

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visual content in there, not a
lot of wording.

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And so it took since November to
get this to be at 100%

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accessibility.
And finally yesterday after like

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almost like a 2 hour Zoom call
that I was taking a nap, forgot

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to hit the one hour alarm.
So the the zoom is at 3:15.

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I woke up at 3:19.
I never set the alarm.

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I was like, Oh my God, I get on
the thing.

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I look, I'm like raggedy, I'm
like a mess.

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I'm like, let's just get this
done.

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And this guy is also so tired of
doing this with me.

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And we got it done.
I got to a full 100%.

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So my brain and doing, doing
research and writing things up,

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I'm sorry, I'm kind of like no
right now.

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Next time I will definitely do
something with that.

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So that's my excuse and my brain
is broken.

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Here's what we're going to do,
We're going to do.

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We're going back to Chuck
Klosterman's hypotheticals.

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We've got three options.
We're going to start, Reese.

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I'm going to tell you what they
are #1 Vampire Weekend.

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Oh, my favorite band. #2
Artistic telekinesis #3 the

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industry standard.
Which one would you?

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Like to go with Vampire Weekend
because I like vampires and I

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like the bands.
Here we go.

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All right, Vampire Weekend.
It's.

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The evening before your wedding,
remember that day.

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Yeah, I do.
Everything is going as.

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Planned my period.
Oh Jesus, you're spending the

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afternoon with your period and a
few old friends.

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You're spending the afternoon
with a few old friends chatting

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casually about old times.
Suddenly you're spouse to be

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burst into the room totally
hysterical.

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Imagine picture me.
I could you're supposed to be

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insists that he has just I'm
saying he or she if you're

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playing along at home, he or she
has just seen a vampire.

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When you ask what this means, he
or she says I was looking out

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the window of my hotel room and
I could see into the apartment

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building across the street.
That's when I saw the vampire.

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I saw a man in a black Cape bite
a woman's neck and drink her

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blood.
I know this must sound crazy,

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but I am.
That's certain.

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What I saw is real.
Your perspective and sober

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spouse is in a state of panic
and pleads with you to believe

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his or her story.
You can tell that this is

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really, really important to him
or her now, knowing the

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fragility of the situation and
the intensity of the timing, do

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you tell your potential spouse
that you do, in fact, completely

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believe that he or she saw a
vampire across the street?

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All of your old friends are
watching this conversation.

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I feel like.
What was that noise?

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Was that me or you?
I don't know what was that

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noise.
I don't know it.

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Might be the vampire.
Did that come from me?

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I don't know.
I I went to go open my mouth and

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the sound came out and I was
like.

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And it felt like I felt
something, but I didn't do

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anything.
That's so weird.

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That was it's the vampire.
Vampire.

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Wow, I feel like you should have
that question towards me.

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Well, I will answer it as well.
I'm just saying because if you

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fucking said that, I'd be like,
bitch, let's go.

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My first question would be why
are you at a hotel?

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What?
Why would that be your first?

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We're getting married.
Yeah, but why are you in a

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hotel?
Because we went someplace to get

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married.
I don't know why is this.

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Why is that?
Why is that?

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Because I need to know all the
information before I can.

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Make a judgement.
No, I'm just kidding.

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I, I would 100% believe you and
the people that I were, that I'm

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old friends would obviously be
like, yeah, obviously she's

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going to believe that.
I 100%.

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I feel like this is very easy
for you to get. 100% I'd be like

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cool, let's go, let's.
So I feel like I would probably

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be at first.
First, I would say this fucking

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guy, you know, you know what
that's.

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Probably, you know, so I think
at first I would probably be

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like, come on, I'll be like,
relax, get yourself together.

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Yep.
But then if you were insistent

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and you were like, no, this is
like, if you were like, this is

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legit.
I know I'm usually fucking crazy

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enough, unhinged, and yes, off
the fucking handle, but this is

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for real.
Then I believe you.

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That's 100% something that I
would say, yeah, and you would

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need to hear me say.
Like you would need to give me a

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This is not me being me, this is
me being for real.

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I wouldn't have my tin foil hat
on, it would just do my.

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Regular hair watch me take this
off yes you and then you would

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do a.
Whole thing 100% and then so

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that's a.
Brainer.

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Review Yeah, that's a brainer.
Yeah, man, fucking vampires.

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Fucking vampires ruining it.
I really do think that they do

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exist.
So do werewolves.

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Where?
Where they are?

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Yeah.
OK.

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Artistic telekinesis or the
industry standard?

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Industry standard.
The industry standard.

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Oh boy, this is I have to hold
it out here.

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This is how I read.
Or tilt your glasses all the way

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down like.
You do.

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No, no.
You are inside a very peculiar

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rock club.
So far this track this is for

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whatever reason, the manager of
the club demands that all his

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musical acts must take an
extensive IQ.

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Test so far I'm disappointed in
this question because I thought

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it was an actual club with
people who collect rocks.

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You're an idiot.
Before he will allow them to

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perform, he has his acts.
Take an extensive IQ test.

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Wow.
I've been drinking before.

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He will allow them to perform
Obfuscate tonight.

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There will be two acts on the
bill and they coincidentally

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share the same band name.
The industry standard.

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Both bands are alleged to be
awesome.

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Sadly, you only have one hour to
spend at the club due to another

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obligation, and the intermission
between the two acts is very

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long, so you really can't watch
both.

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You ask the manager which
version of the industry standard

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you should watch.
He says.

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I have no idea, he says.
But I will tell you this.

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The first band had the highest
test scores I've ever seen

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anywhere.
Each member of the band is

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technically a genius.
One guy scored higher than

454
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,680
Marilyn von Savant.
Conversely, the band playing

455
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,680
second had some of the worst
scores ever recorded.

456
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,760
One member might actually be
illiterate.

457
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:50,040
However, I halfway suspect they
were all drunk and mocking the

458
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,600
entire process.
I couldn't tell for sure.

459
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,880
No wonder what his IQ is.
Which version of the industry

460
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:04,480
standard do you decide to see?
Obviously the Dum Dums.

461
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,200
I feel like the Dum Dums is the
answer too.

462
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,160
Yeah, the Dum Dums.
Although I got to say I don't, I

463
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,400
see this would piss me off that
I can't see them both.

464
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,440
I would figure out a way to be
like if if someone else was

465
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,760
going to be there, I'd be like,
can you record this for me so I

466
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,720
can, you know?
So logically I would try to

467
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,400
figure that out, but.
That's a tough one because I

468
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,400
would want to see them both
really bad, I think because

469
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,520
there are bands that are super
smart, that are interesting.

470
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,240
So like, let's take for example,
let's say like Radiohead, right?

471
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,080
Radiohead are very like
musically smart.

472
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,040
Like their music is very
complex.

473
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,640
Cerebral.
And then there are bands that

474
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,560
are very not that, that are just
very passionate and emotional,

475
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,800
that are also very awesome.
So both have potential to be

476
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,160
very, very, very, very, very,
very cool, right.

477
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,440
And I think I would want to find
out exactly what is the industry

478
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,200
standard.
I feel like if I'm going to be

479
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,000
entertained.
Are you not entertained?

480
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:05,640
Are.
You not, would you?

481
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,760
Watch that.
I would watch.

482
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,720
That I will watch that all day,
every day.

483
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,640
Gladiator is is phenomenal.
Second one not so good, huh?

484
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,240
I'm going to.
No, the second one was not good.

485
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,400
I didn't see it.
Not good at all.

486
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,840
I was disappointed.
All right.

487
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,360
What are you going to say?
Yeah, the second dumb bad.

488
00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:31,960
I would just choose to like roll
the dice and see now what that

489
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,360
was about.
Now that's more interesting to

490
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:34,720
me.
We.

491
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,000
Could divide and conquer this I
would definitely do that where

492
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,520
hey listen we got to go to a
thing but I can go to that or

493
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,600
you can go to that you watch
this one and I'll watch that one

494
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,960
yes or vice versa right cool
we're.

495
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,800
Good like that.
Like we would be like.

496
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,080
We're like, look, here's we
like.

497
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:52,520
Music and we're going.
To do, but if it was just us on

498
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,960
our own, I guess I would choose
the dumb dumb band.

499
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,960
I would because I feel like to
me, I am a I'm a big fan of the

500
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:03,200
wabi sabi.
Like I like things that are

501
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:11,520
broken and not perfect and
disjointed and and messy.

502
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,320
Yeah, I like chaos.
I feel like there's, on the

503
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,360
cerebral side of things, the
smarty pants.

504
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,840
I feel like there's potential
for that to be too cerebral.

505
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,920
Yeah.
And it would obfuscate my good

506
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,960
time.
OK, last one.

507
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,560
Artistic telekinesis.
There it is.

508
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,640
Look at it.
OK, It looks like there's a

509
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,520
remote control involved.
All right, let's assume that you

510
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,920
have the ability to
telekinetically change culture

511
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,160
while you actively experience
it.

512
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,080
So your mind can now dictate
what you see and hear, for

513
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,440
example, Just in case.
I know you look a little

514
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,800
perplexed.
Name perplexed.

515
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,720
For example, if you were
listening to Pearl Jam's Yield

516
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,560
and you wanted the music to be
heavier, it would immediately

517
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,040
sound as though Mike Mccready's
guitar had tuned differently in

518
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,800
the studio.
Simulation.

519
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,120
Here we go for a second.
Hold on.

520
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,120
Wait, it's getting better?
Yep.

521
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,880
If you were watching The Office
on NBC and decided that Jim

522
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,040
should marry Pam or Karen or
both, you could make it happen.

523
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,400
All you would need to do is
think about that specific

524
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,360
desire.
You could stare at an oil

525
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:29,240
painting and unconsciously
change the color contrasts.

526
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,880
If APG 13 romantic comedy grew
dull, you could force it to

527
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,640
evolve to an eroticized NC 17
thriller.

528
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,560
You could essentially write
books as you read them,

529
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,080
eliminating certain characters
and redirecting plot points as

530
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:51,280
they occurred in the text.
However, such changes would only

531
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,960
apply to your experience.
You could kill off Han Solo at

532
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,840
the end of The Return of the
Jedi, but that would not change

533
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,320
the movie for anyone else.
I would definitely not do that.

534
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,880
All other people would possess
the same personal psychic powers

535
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,400
as you.
So everybody would have their

536
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,680
own psychic ability to.
So everything would be a

537
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,960
different experience for
everybody.

538
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,400
So the question is, would you
want this ability?

539
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,360
And if this became reality,
would art retain any meaning

540
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:25,160
whatsoever?
Yeah.

541
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,840
I fucking love that question.
I love that one all.

542
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,120
Right.
Well, what's your answer?

543
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,000
Well, I feel like there's a lot
to unpack here.

544
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,080
Oh, let's start.
OK, starting with #1 I feel

545
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,760
that, yeah, I feel that we could
start it. #7.

546
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,640
Fuck you.
I feel like perception is your

547
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,880
reality, and I feel like
everybody sees things the way

548
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,040
that they want to see it, the
way they perceive it from their

549
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,360
lived experience.
So I feel like we already do

550
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,120
that in a in, in a way like
you're.

551
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,400
So yes, we all, but we usually
do that in relation to some type

552
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,360
of context.
And so now if the context is

553
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,720
gone, you don't really have a
way to actually have a

554
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,520
conversation about it, because
it's because there's no factual

555
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:26,600
thing to discuss, because
everything is different.

556
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,040
So I'm going to give you an
example.

557
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,840
I hear what you're saying.
So the ending of Lost, every

558
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:41,840
time I watch it, I cry.
I see that last episode as a

559
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,120
beautiful tribute to the
characters, the series.

560
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:53,680
I connect it with my own lived
experience of what a beautiful

561
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,200
concept of death.
Like you get to everybody dies

562
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,800
at their own time, but then they
all have this special place that

563
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,680
they gather together and wait
for each other.

564
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,440
Like that, that idea and Jack
having closure with his father,

565
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,440
like realizing like, OK, we're
both dead.

566
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,320
Look, I'm already I have
goosebumps.

567
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,400
Like he realizes, like, if I'm
seeing you, I'm dead.

568
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,200
Like, this is it.
Like, to me, and I love it,

569
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,320
other people's perception is
that's the worst.

570
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,280
Fucking people put it up there
as the worst ending of a show of

571
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,520
all time.
And I let people have that

572
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,960
because you can.
That's fine.

573
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,880
That means that that series
wasn't as meaningful to you as

574
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,360
it was to me.
OK, now if you, if I was given

575
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:45,600
the ability to change things in
my mind, you know what I mean,

576
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,000
to to change colors or endings
or whatever, you know, I would

577
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,440
put Benedict Cumberbatch in
every, in everything.

578
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,400
You know what I mean?
Like if I could do that thing,

579
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,200
there's two sides to it.
There is the opportunity for

580
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,040
people to come together and say,
tell me about what you created

581
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,400
and I'm going to tell you what I
created, and then you can have a

582
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,440
wonderful discussion.
There's an opportunity for

583
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,440
wonderful discussion and
conversation.

584
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,560
So hear me out.
This would end up being then

585
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,840
like everything starts as like
the ultimate prompt, right?

586
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,120
And then you then decide where
you want to take it right now.

587
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,800
On the flip side of that though,
so I, I, I hear what you're

588
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,440
saying.
I like that idea because I was

589
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,880
thinking of it as OK, but now
like, so your last example,

590
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,880
everybody would be having a
different moment.

591
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,840
And so you actually couldn't
have a discussion about.

592
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,680
No, I would love to know.
What people did.

593
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,480
But I would love to know what.
So how would you change it?

594
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,160
But, but, but here's the deal.
If you watch the whole season,

595
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,480
the whole thing could be
different.

596
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,600
And so you might not even get to
that place.

597
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,840
You see what I'm saying?
Because then that and that I

598
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,320
think is the second part of the,
the question is, would art

599
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,440
retain any meaning whatsoever?
Because it's no longer a, it's

600
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,040
no longer somebody's vision of
what they're sharing with you.

601
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:17,160
It's a vision of you taking the
idea of what they started with

602
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,040
and then changing it and not
even watching the artists.

603
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:27,400
But it's also understanding the
two modes of subjective and

604
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,480
objective.
But that doesn't exist anymore.

605
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,160
But it still can be because we
would be so used to that in

606
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:42,920
light that we would adapt to
that and then be able to have

607
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,840
the conversation.
It would be, you know what I

608
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,960
mean?
Like, listen, even when you you

609
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,480
look at art and you look at a
painting, everybody sees

610
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,720
different things anyway.
You see what you want to see.

611
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,600
Yes, yes, but you are all still
looking at the same thing.

612
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,680
And this is where it would be
different is that it wouldn't be

613
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,120
the same thing.
So like the take for example,

614
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,120
that here's that picture of the
octopus behind you, right?

615
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,960
So let's say I said, you know
what?

616
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,800
I want that to be blue.
I wanted to, I wanted to have

617
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,800
different things.
And so now what I'm looking at

618
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,160
is actually not what you're
looking.

619
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,600
At but I'm not going to argue
with you.

620
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,360
No, but it.
Doesn't matter that you're

621
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,200
arguing with me.
Let me finish the point.

622
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,000
The point is then you and I
can't have a discussion about it

623
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,200
because we're not looking at the
same thing.

624
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,880
We're looking at different
things.

625
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,320
If.
We do this every single day.

626
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,040
This is why people fight with
each other.

627
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,680
I feel like it would probably
be.

628
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,160
You know why people fucking
fight with?

629
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,760
You don't fucking fucking Google
box.

630
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:54,160
Stick it up your Google box.
I feel like, and I knew you were

631
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,400
going to say blue because.
Oh, now you fucking know me.

632
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,080
Now I'm you think?
You know.

633
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,160
Me, I'm a genius.
No, I feel like if that were the

634
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:12,000
case, then we would all be aware
of people have can morph and

635
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,280
change things.
And I think there'd be so many

636
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,600
more interesting conversations
because then then the next

637
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,960
question would be like, why did
you change that?

638
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,800
Why did you?
Because it wouldn't be like.

639
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,320
So, but I feel like the first
question would be, So what did

640
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,639
you do to it?
So what'd you do to it?

641
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,480
And then and then you can have
the conversation about.

642
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,840
Why did you do that?
Right?

643
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,639
But so.
So let's think of it like this,

644
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:35,520
right?
Let's use I.

645
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,880
Don't think it would be a bad
thing.

646
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,920
We just watched.
It'd be different, but I'm just

647
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,960
saying it would be a weird
conversation to have.

648
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,159
And then it would get to the
point.

649
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,120
Would art retain any meaning
whatsoever?

650
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,440
Because like, you're not really
being able to experience the art

651
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,120
as the artist who created it
wanted you to.

652
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,840
You'd be an artist as well,
which I think is a different

653
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,360
thing, which is fine, but it's
just different.

654
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,320
And so like, let's use Mother as
an example.

655
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:03,320
OK, so think about this, right?
So that the kids watched Mother

656
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,520
the other day and then we
watched it after they watched it

657
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,720
and they hated it and then we
watched it and we're like and.

658
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:13,240
Then what did Johnny's boyfriend
say after they watched it?

659
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:14,960
I don't know.
They hate.

660
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,840
It your mother is going to love
this movie.

661
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,440
So because I didn't, I didn't
have AI, didn't have a deep

662
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,680
enough opinion to other than I I
I liked it, I got it, I didn't.

663
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,760
The point is, they watched it.
They hated it.

664
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,640
Right?
So Johnny's boyfriend?

665
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,440
Yeah.
Said.

666
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,240
So that you would like your
mother's going to love it

667
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,040
knowing that they hated it,
Yeah.

668
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,040
So now here's my point though,
is that if they started watching

669
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,440
that and they were like, I hate
this, here's what I would

670
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,760
change, and then they changed
it.

671
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,080
It's interesting.
I'm trying to think about what

672
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,120
the.
Discussion would be, here's

673
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,480
where I would go with this, my
personality, the way that my

674
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,560
brain works.
I would be like, I'm going to

675
00:35:53,560 --> 00:36:00,640
watch it as the director and
writer and writer of it.

676
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,440
It's what's his face?
What's his face, Darren and I

677
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:12,480
love most of Aronofsky's movies
because they are meant to be

678
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,560
uncomfortable.
They're meant to.

679
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,880
This is and this is the
conversation that I had

680
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,560
afterwards with her boyfriend
about it because he was like,

681
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,240
all right, let's go, let's talk
about it.

682
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,560
And I explained to him that
because of my theatre

683
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,120
background, I learned about
Bertolt Brecht wrote plays like

684
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,160
3 Penny Opera and he the music,
they were musicals.

685
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,880
And that's where you get Mack
the Knife, the song.

686
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,120
And he did.
The music was disjointed,

687
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,480
uncomfortable.
When the performances would

688
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,280
happen, you would see the
costume changes, you would see

689
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,280
the scene changes.
There was no illusion.

690
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,000
There was no willing suspension
of disbelief.

691
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,880
The every play that he wrote had
a message.

692
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,080
And he didn't want you to get
lost in the world.

693
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,240
He wanted you to receive the
message by being uncomfortable

694
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,200
and knowing this is a play.
This is the message that I'm

695
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,680
sending and blah, blah, blah.
And I feel like Aronofsky's does

696
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,240
that because it's up to you to
get it, but it's time out, time

697
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:14,880
out.
Let me finish.

698
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,120
When I watched Mother
immediately into it, I'm like,

699
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,080
this is a metaphor.
It's a metaphor and this is not

700
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,160
reality.
So now whatever I am about to

701
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,080
watch for the amount of time
that I'm watching it, there's a

702
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,040
message here.
So I'm just looking for

703
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,680
symbolism.
And then right away I'm like,

704
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,480
OK, this is biblical.
This is about the Bible.

705
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,880
So I'm not going to lie, I went
and I, I looked up who wrote it

706
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,160
and went and I was like, oh, he
wrote this.

707
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,120
And then my thought was this is
a metaphor and it said it in the

708
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,160
thing.
And I'm like, all right, that

709
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,520
confirmed it.
And then there's a it's about

710
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,400
the Bible.
It's stories of the Bible and

711
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,920
things about the Bible and about
God and Mother Earth and all

712
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,560
this stuff and things kept
popping up.

713
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,680
So as if we're going, I'm
Googling and I'm, I'm looking

714
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,000
at, I'm going in the Google box
and I'm looking up like all

715
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,800
these like, 'cause listen, I
went to Catholic school.

716
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,920
So I have a, a, some, I really
was, but there was like some

717
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,040
things I was like, I don't
understand this reference.

718
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,960
Let me look at it.
My brain was like bursting.

719
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,840
I loved everything about it.
I do feel like maybe not

720
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,320
Jennifer Lawrence in that role.
I, I think she's a good actress,

721
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,160
but I feel like I don't know, I
would have if someone else was

722
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,440
in that role.
I feel like it might have been

723
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,200
better.
It might have been like more.

724
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,040
Poignant.
Poignant, but I think she did a

725
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,280
great job.
I would never be able to recover

726
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,560
from the from it.
And their thing was it was so

727
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,240
violent.
There was so much violence.

728
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:55,640
Like, dude, we need to see this
thing and that thing and it was

729
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,400
so I was like, yes, you need to
see it and you need to see what

730
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,160
happened.
I'm not going to give it away.

731
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,720
I'm also not going to recommend
it because I don't want to hear

732
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:05,240
somebody telling me why did you
make me?

733
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,800
I didn't make you do nothing if
you're.

734
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,640
Into that type if.
You don't have an open mind and

735
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,200
you and you can't see the
artistry of how he.

736
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,040
It's the same thing as when
people do Shakespeare and they

737
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,160
modernize it if.
You if you want a movie where

738
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:21,520
you think and you have to, you
see the symbolism in you, it's

739
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,240
like it's.
And you can appreciate the

740
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:26,800
modernization of the biblical
stories, whatever, right?

741
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,800
And and it's hard to watch.
There's some things towards the

742
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,120
end too that are like really
deeply difficult.

743
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,240
But anyway, if they decided
we're going to watch this and we

744
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:39,480
can change things, I would love
to sit down and be like, what

745
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,640
did you change?
Because what I would do with

746
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:50,200
this power is allow the artist
to like, see it in its original

747
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,120
form and then watch it again and
allow myself to make the

748
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,080
corrections or things that I
think I would like it to be.

749
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:03,920
So I feel as though you would
need to have a club like an art

750
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,480
club, where the agreement was
we're going to watch things

751
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,600
pure.
Yep.

752
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,480
And that actually would be
pretty cool.

753
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,360
Here's here's how I think the
solution.

754
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,120
We're going to watch things pure
and then we're going to talk

755
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,800
about what changes we would
make.

756
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,000
And then we then you could watch
those versions or the collective

757
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,240
version that you would create.
That's how I would do it.

758
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,120
That would be cool.
But that's what we do with any.

759
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,160
Well, without the outcome,
though, without the it's almost

760
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,680
like you get the it's like the
George Lucas effect, right where

761
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,040
Star Wars.
I'm not done with Star Wars.

762
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,480
Oh, now I have new technology,
I'm going to add stupid shit in

763
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,880
here that ruins it.
Oh, like Han Solo stepping on

764
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,840
JABBA?
The Hutt Stupid, right?

765
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,400
But but this is essentially what
it could be.

766
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,960
And some people thought that
that was clever and funny.

767
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,720
I found it in poor taste and
tacky because you're ruining it.

768
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:04,520
But think of but Yep.
But think of how we modernize

769
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,080
classic pieces, right?
So I'm going to go back to

770
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,560
Shakespeare, right?
How many versions of

771
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,640
Shakespeare's plays of Hamlet or
Macbeth or Romeo?

772
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,240
And it's a trope and people take
that.

773
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:23,880
They modernize it and do things.
There's so many versions of

774
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,560
Hamlet.
I think there's like four or

775
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,600
five.
And one of my favorite ones is

776
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,040
the Mel Gibson, which is true to
form.

777
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,640
Mel Gibson's a little bit old to
be playing Hamlet at that time,

778
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:41,480
but I ignored that and I thought
it was really well done.

779
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,880
But then there's the most modern
version with Ethan Hawke, who I

780
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,120
love, but I hated it because it
was so tacky.

781
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,840
It was so like 90s grunge tacky.
Did not like it, but give me the

782
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,960
Romeo and Juliet with Leonardo
DiCaprio and Clare Dant.

783
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,400
It's beautiful, visually
stunning, everything about it.

784
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:06,640
And what they did was take this
classic that everybody knows

785
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:11,400
everything about it and they
just aesthetically made it.

786
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,280
They didn't change the dialogue,
they didn't modernize the text.

787
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,840
They just made it beautiful.
I'm going to say this.

788
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,280
Remember the we just started
watching Mad Men and in the

789
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,520
middle I had an epiphany.
I was like, I'm going to create

790
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,080
Mad Men with the same aesthetic,
but the dialogue is going to be

791
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,360
modern.
What I'm trying to say is, in my

792
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,480
mind, I'm already rebranding it
and refurbishing it in the way

793
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,680
that I think would be amazing,
you know what I mean?

794
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,200
So I feel like we already kind
of do this, but I also think it

795
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,160
would be so great if everybody
had that imagination and and

796
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,280
then we can find a place, yeah,
where we can have.

797
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,160
But again, humans fucking suck
and we'd be arguing about it so.

798
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,000
It's just like we could continue
to do, I know.

799
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,680
So let's close it there.
I like.

800
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,160
That that was the greatest
conversation.

801
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,000
Yeah.
I liked it.

802
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,080
Nice job you enjoyed the
conversation friends, remember

803
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,520
this by visit group project be
kind to each other.

804
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:17,640
We'll see you next time we.
Put the hammer right now.